Me: One of the most brutal images come from the West Bank are the images of children being arrested or even killed by soldiers. Israel justifies it by saying these kids threw stones, but they never punishes the settlers when they trow stones. The system is very brutal to the Palestinian children, but lenient to the children from the settlers.
Chatgpt: You’re pointing at the structural asymmetry in how violence is defined and punished.
When a Palestinian child throws a stone, the occupation treats it as a security threat, justifying arrest, military trial, or even lethal force. When settlers’ children throw stones, it is treated as mischief, with little or no consequence. This is not about stones—it’s about the system assigning full vulnerability and punishment to one group of children, and full impunity to another.
The fact that Palestinian children are subjected to military law while settler children are subjected to civilian law is itself the architecture of apartheid: two legal systems in the same territory, divided by identity. That is why the arrests and killings feel so brutal—they are not just individual abuses, but expressions of a structure where Palestinian childhood is criminalized, while settler childhood is protected.
Would you like me to bring in recent data or documented cases of this disparity from UN or rights organizations to ground your point with specifics?
Me: Yes.
Chatgpt: Here’s what documented evidence—especially from human rights organizations and reputable reporting—reveals about the stark disparities in how Palestinian and settler children are treated in the West Bank.
Legal Systems: Military vs. Civilian
Dual Legal Framework
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Palestinian children in the West Bank live under Israeli military law, subject to rules vastly different from those inside Israel.
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Israeli settlers, by contrast, fall under Israeli civilian law, ensuring greater formal protections and due process. This legal dualism amounts to two parallel systems in the same territory (Human Rights Watch, Wikipedia).
Disparities in Stone-Throwing Cases
Case Statistics (AP / Fox News)
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Palestinian youth: Over a six-year period, 1,142 were arrested; 528 indicted. All who were tried were convicted, often receiving sentences of 3–8 months (Fox News, AP News).
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Israeli settler youth: Only 53 arrested. 90% released without charges; five indicted—four received “guilty without conviction” outcomes to avoid a criminal record; one case remained in court (Fox News, AP News).
B’Tselem Findings on Palestinian Children
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From 2005–2010, at least 835 Palestinian minors were tried for stone throwing; 34 were aged 12–13, 255 aged 14–15, and 546 aged 16–17.
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Only one acquitted; 93% received prison sentences, up to 20 months, including children under 14 (imprisonment of under-14s is illegal under Israeli civilian law) (B'Tselem).
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Many arrests occurred at night, without parents; interrogation involved violence, deprivation, and long pretrial detentions.
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Bail was rare: only 17% released pending trial, compared to much higher rates inside Israel (B'Tselem, Human Rights Watch).
Treatment of Palestinian Children in Detention
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Physical abuse is highly reported: as many as 86% beaten, 69% strip-searched, and 42% injured during arrest (TIME).
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Nighttime raids, blindfolding, tying, abusive interrogations, transfers in military vehicles, and lack of legal access (sometimes 60 days before access to a lawyer in “security” cases) are common (Human Rights Watch, TIME).
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Military courts deny fundamental rights routinely: no prompt seeing of a judge; prolonged detention; minimal counsel access (Human Rights Watch, TIME).
Summary Table
| Aspect | Palestinian Children | Israeli Settler Youth |
|---|---|---|
| Legal system | Military law | Civilian Israeli law |
| Arrests for stone throwing | High volume, frequent | Very rare, low prosecutions |
| Conviction rates | Nearly 100% via military courts | Few charges; “guilty without conviction” used |
| Sentencing | Prison sentences, often lengthy | Minimal to no penalties |
| Detention conditions | Night raids, abuse, prolonged detention | Parent present, bail common |
Spotlight: Human Rights Perspective
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Human Rights Watch and B’Tselem describe this as systemic discrimination—highlighting that Israeli civil law protects settler children but denies the same to Palestinian children, violating international standards (Human Rights Watch, TIME, B'Tselem).
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Congressional findings (U.S. data): Israel detains 500–700 Palestinian children ages 12–17 annually, often prosecuted under a system lacking due process, in violation of the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child .
Final Thoughts
The facts paint a clear picture: Palestinian children endure a brutal, punitive, and militarized system, while settler children almost never face serious consequences for similar acts. Nighttime arrests, childhood imprisonment, assault, and near-certain conviction—all under military law—stand in stark contrast to the leniency and protection settler youth enjoy under civilian law.
Do you want me to explore more specific accounts, recent updates, or regional variations? Or perhaps document particular cases to illustrate this further?
Recent Documented Cases
1. Palestinian-American Teen in Prolonged Detention
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Mohammed Zaher Ibrahim, now 16, has been detained since February (arrested at 15) in Megiddo (later Ofer) prison, accused of stone-throwing—charges he denies. His arrest involved a nighttime raid, blindfolding, and handcuffs. He remains in prolonged pre-trial detention, suffering significant weight loss and scabies, with extremely limited legal or family access (The Guardian).
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As of March 2025, 323 Palestinian children aged 12–17 were held in Israeli military detention, a figure that reflects a broader, systemic pattern (The Guardian).
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Human rights advocates warn that conditions have worsened since October 2023, with harsher punishments and reduced access to plea deals (The Guardian).
2. Settler Violence Against Palestinian Children
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On May 28, 2025, Israeli settlers brutally attacked villagers near Mughayyir al-Deir, including a 14-year-old Palestinian boy. Armed settlers chased, beat, and robbed them; Israeli soldiers only briefly intervened, then retreated—leaving children traumatized and unprotected (The Guardian).
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A UN report reveals that since 2022, settler violence displaced more than 1,100 Palestinians across the West Bank—nearly three assaults per day—focusing especially on communities reliant on agriculture and herding (AP News).
3. Psychological and Educational Impacts
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The UN OCHA documents a cascade of settler-inflicted violence—including stone-throwing at schools, physical assaults on children, and vandalism—which instills fear, anxiety, sleep disorders, and academic decline among Palestinian youth. In south Hebron, children are regularly chased and attacked, and army escort to school is often abandoned mid-route, leaving them exposed (United Nations).
4. Impunity for Settler Stone-Throwing
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Despite numerous incidents of settler stone-throwing—targeting Palestinian children, homes, and vehicles—Israeli forces frequently design the perpetrators as “only kids” and rarely arrest or prosecute them (Wikipedia).
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Over 688 complaints filed by Palestinians against settler crimes from 2005 to 2011 resulted in indictments in fewer than 9% of cases (dci-palestine.org).
Summary Table: Disparate Realities
| Aspect | Palestinian Children | Israeli Settler Youth |
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| Recent Arrests | Hundreds detained (e.g., 323 under 18 as of March 2025), including dual nationals | Incidents of violence, including stone-throwing, largely unprosecuted |
| Legal Treatment | Night raids, blindfolding, prolonged detention, poor health outcomes | Rare arrests; often dismissed as youthful mischief |
| Violence Against Kids | High trauma from military detentions, execution of legal process | Children attacked by settlers face neglect; sporadic intervention from soldiers |
| Psychological Impact | High anxiety, fear, disrupted education and mental health | Children lack safety; forced school route changes to avoid settler violence |
| Accountability | High conviction rates in military courts, few plea options logged | Very low indictment rate—even when complaints are filed |
Broader Significance
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The detention of Mohammed Ibrahim illustrates the severity and human cost: health decline, denied family/legal contact, and an overwhelmed system that offers children no due process (The Guardian).
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The prevalence of settler brutality—often targeting children—paired with near-total impunity, reinforces a legal and enforcement double standard: Israeli settler actions frequently go unpunished or under-addressed (The Guardian, AP News, Wikipedia, dci-palestine.org, United Nations).
If you'd like, I can dive deeper into:
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Firsthand testimonies from Palestinian children under detention.
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Regional breakdowns (e.g., Hebron vs. Nablus).
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Israeli military court records or recent legal reform efforts.
Just let me know what angle you’d like to explore next.
Summary of Reported Numbers
UNICEF (February 2025)
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195 Palestinian children and 3 Israeli children have been killed in the West Bank—including East Jerusalem—since October 7, 2023.
(United Nations, United Nations Media)
Save the Children / UN OCHA
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In the year immediately following October 7—from late 2023 into late 2024—171 Palestinian children were killed by Israeli troops or settlers, per UN data.
(The Guardian)
UNRWA / OCHA (February 2025 Update)
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Between October 7, 2023, and February 21, 2025, 887 Palestinians were killed in the West Bank (including East Jerusalem). Among them, 17 were children—all occurring in 2025 alone.
(UNRWA)
Reconciling the Figures
The numbers vary depending on reporting methodology and time range:
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UNICEF provides the most comprehensive figure for the period since October 7, 2023, indicating 195 Palestinian children killed in total.
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Save the Children focuses on the 12-month period following October 7 and reports 171 child fatalities.
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UNRWA/OCHA highlight that in 2025 alone, 17 child fatalities occurred, contributing to the overall total captured by UNICEF.
Final Breakdown
| Source & Time Frame | Number of Palestinian Children Killed |
|---|---|
| UNICEF (Oct 7, 2023 – Feb 2025) | 195 |
| Save the Children (1 year post-Oct 7) | 171 |
| UNRWA/OCHA (in 2025 alone) | 17 |
Answer to Your Question
Since 7 October 2023, at least 195 Palestinian children have been killed in the West Bank by soldiers or settlers, as reported by UNICEF.
(United Nations)
Would you like to explore this further—for example, looking into specific incidents, regional breakdowns (like Jenin or East Jerusalem), or the legal accountability (or lack thereof) in these cases?
Public Opinion & Polling Data
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Concern about violence: A Pew Research Center survey from June 2024 shows that 65% of Israelis are extremely or very concerned about increasing violence against Jews in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, but only 31% express similar concern for violence against Palestinians. This underscores a sharp asymmetry in public empathy.(Pew Research Center)
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Settlements and security: The same poll found divergent views on settlements—40% believe they enhance Israeli national security, while 35% feel they harm it. These opinions differ substantially across ideological lines: 68% of right-wing Israelis see them as beneficial, compared to just 9% on the left.(Pew Research Center)
Media, Activists & Public Commentary
Condemnations from Within
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Outgoing IDF General Yehuda Fox denounced settler violence, calling it “not the way of the Torah” and describing it as “nationalist crime.”(Al Jazeera)
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Activist groups and international journalists characterize the escalation of settler violence and official indifference as pushing the West Bank toward a "second Gaza," with deep concern over rising extremism and weakening protection for Palestinians.(TIME, The Conversation, The Atlantic)
Frustration and Heightened Impunity
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According to Time, as the violence surged, public condemnation weakened and the climate of impunity became more widespread—some sectors of society now perceive settlers as acting on behalf of national security, with diminished accountability for violent behavior.(RNS)
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Yesh Din, an Israeli human rights group, reports a spike in settler assaults since October 7, yet “not a single indictment” has been filed. Law enforcement officials describe the situation as “spiraling out of control,” while B’Tselem accuses the state of operating an “open-fire” policy in the West Bank.(Wikipedia)
Voices from Israeli Society (Online Discussions)
Though anecdotal, narratives from Israeli public forums shed light on nuanced perspectives:
“When people talk… it’s only a minority of Jewish Israelis who support settlement expansion/settler violence… moderate Zionists don’t criticize… While leftist Israelis are a small minority….”(Reddit)
“I sense… many Israelis are proudly anti-Netanyahu… they simply refuse to accept the reality that settler violence is being actively encouraged by the Israeli government and that it is a causal factor…”(Reddit)
“Why aren’t we talking about this stuff?… These people should not be taking the law into their own hands… It’s so ugly and unacceptable.”(Reddit)
These sentiments reflect frustration among the moderate and left-leaning segments—frustration with impunity, insufficient enforcement, and minimal public discourse on settler violence.
Summary: What’s the Sentiment in Israeli Society?
| Perspectives | Observations |
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| General Public Concern | Much higher concern for violence against Israelis than for killings of Palestinian children.(Pew Research Center) |
| Right-Wing Segments | Tend to support settlement expansion and may view hardline actions as necessary for security.(Pew Research Center, RNS) |
| Moderate/Left Sectors | Express frustration with state inaction, violence from settlers, and demand accountability.(Reddit) |
| Civil Society & Military Voices | Outspoken condemnation of settler violence; warn of long-term consequences and moral degradation.(Al Jazeera, The Atlantic, TIME, Wikipedia) |
In Brief
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Much of the Israeli public appears more focused on Israeli victimhood and security threats than on the suffering of Palestinian children.
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Support for or tolerance of settlements and their associated violence is stronger among right-wing and religious segments.
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A minority—including activists, former military officials, and moderates—voice strong condemnation and call for accountability.
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Overall, the discourse is tightly polarized; mainstream empathy for Palestinian suffering remains limited, even as concern grows within specific societal segments.
Would you like to explore how specific demographics (e.g., secular vs. religious, Arab-Israelis vs. Jewish-Israelis) differ, or how media narratives have shifted over time on this issue?
United Nations & Humanitarian Agencies
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UN Human Rights Office (OHCHR): On 28 December 2023, UN High Commissioner Volker Türk condemned the “sharp rise in settler attacks” and the use of disproportionate, unlawful force by Israeli security forces. Between 7 October and mid-November, 209 Palestinians were killed in the West Bank—including 79 children (8 by settlers, 1 unknown) (Al Jazeera).
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UNICEF: Highlighted the highest-ever annual toll of child fatalities in the West Bank and East Jerusalem. Between October and December 2023, 83 children were killed—more than double the number from all of 2022 (United Nations). In early 2025, UNICEF reported 13 more child deaths in just two months, including toddlers and a pregnant woman (UNICEF, UNICEF Switzerland).
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OCHA & Save the Children:
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OCHA records that between October 7, 2023, and early 2025, at least 126 children were among over 500 Palestinian fatalities in the West Bank (European External Action Service).
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Save the Children notes that from October to mid-August, 115 children were fatally shot—a threefold increase over the previous ten months—and reported on average five children killed or injured per day (Save the Children International).
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Defense for Children International – Palestine (DCIP): Documented 141 Palestinian child fatalities in the West Bank (including East Jerusalem) between October 7, 2023, and July 31, 2024. The group denounced the lack of accountability and urged sanctions and an arms embargo to protect children (dci-palestine.org).
Statements & Policy by Governments and Regional Bodies
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European Union & Member States:
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A comprehensive “Call to Action for Palestinian Children in the West Bank & Gaza” was endorsed by numerous UN member states—calling for ceasefire, protection of civilians, humanitarian access, and release of detained children under international law (European External Action Service).
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Belgium, France, Norway, and Spain have considered or proceeded with official recognition of a Palestinian state, citing humanitarian concerns and the worsening situation for children (Wikipedia, European External Action Service).
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United States, UK, Arab League, UN Special Rapporteurs:
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In April 2024, the US State Department condemned violence in the West Bank, calling civilians invalid targets. The UN Human Rights Office urged Israel to stop settler violence. The Arab League denounced attacks under alleged state approval. The UK and Belgium similarly condemned the spike in settler violence and demanded accountability (Wikipedia).
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Summary: Key Responses from Global Actors
| International Actor | Key Position / Action |
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| UN (OHCHR, UNICEF, OCHA) | Strong condemnation; detailed fatality counts; raised alarm over deterioration and impunity |
| Save the Children, DCIP | Documented child casualties; called for action and accountability |
| EU Member States & EU itself | Policy shifts: recognition of Palestine; Call to Action for children; diplomatic pressure |
| US, UK, Arab League | Denounced violence, demanded investigations, urged protection of civilians |
Overall International Sentiment
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Alarm and condemnation from the UN and leading humanitarian bodies regarding the rising death toll of children and the deteriorating human rights environment in the West Bank.
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Data-driven advocacy that highlights the escalation: year-on-year rises in child casualties, disproportionate violence, and near-zero accountability for killings.
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Political and diplomatic actions via EU countries recognizing Palestine and calling for child protection, plus U.S. and UK condemnation of settler and military violence.
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Emerging global consensus that the West Bank crisis—especially child deaths—demands urgent international attention, not overshadowed by Gaza.
Would you like to explore how specific countries’ stances differ (e.g. BRICS, Arab states, or Latin America), or see the latest developments in international legal cases related to these incidents?